Discussion on May 8th 2024
Background Presentation on Joint Committees
Additional Background Information:
2016: Housekeeping motions were passed in both district 04 & 40 to restructure PI/CPC under General Service
ACM MINUTES JANUARY 2016
04 SANTA CLARA NORTH Eric L.:
The Intergroup is working on passing a motion in our District to have PI move to General Service.
DISTRICT 40 MINUTES APRIL 2016
MIGUEL H. DCMC D-40
Housekeeping motion to restructure PI/CPC under General Service with D40 and D04 rather than Intergroup – Passed
DISTRICT 04 MINUTES APRIL 2016
NICK G. D-04
We passed a Housekeeping Motion to restructure PI/CPC to operate under General Service with District 04 and 40 rather than Intergroup
Event Data from PI/CPC tracker
As a point of clarification the DCM reached out to the chair of the PI/CPC committee to find out how many reps there were but that information is not available.
Discussion Q&A
Q: What’s the purpose? What would the committee do that the group is not already doing? Is it to get input from both district 4 and 40? What is the benefit of a committee?
A: We currently have a committee and per tradition 9 we form committees to serve people. We have this joint committee with D40 and it was formed in 2016 before that it was part of Intergroup. It was restructured in 2016 because PI is a general service function. Right now it serves both districts.
Q: Are the committee meetings in addition to what the group meetings are?
A: This joint committee meets the first Sunday of every month. Anyone can be a committee member. Preferably from district 4 or 40. They don’t have to come to this district meeting.
Q: Do they have to be a part of PI/CPC officially or can they just be a rep of district 4 or 40?
A: The idea of PI/CPC reps is that they go to that meeting in the same fashion like an Intergroup rep.
Q: If our responsibilities are not being fully taken advantage of or if their getting pawned off because we’re sharing with district 40?
A: Whether or not it’s being pawned off is more of an opinion and we can’t say factually whether that is happening. It’s a small joint committee and there are only so many events and outreach in our district. Is our district being served by the current joint committee structure is the question.
Q: This is based on the clarification of how many reps there are for PI/CPC. What is a rep? What does it mean to be a rep? If I go to meetings in both district 4 and 40 which district am I a representative of? How do we tell who the representatives are on that committee? Are they supposed to be representing both district equally?
A: There are no guidelines or charter that the committee needs to be composed a certain way.
Q: The 2nd Sunday of the month do all of these general service functions meet or do they each have their own meetings?
A: The first Sunday is PI/CPC. Anyone in district 4 or 40 who is interested in that can attend and serve on that committee. Bridging the Gap is the 4th Monday. Each of these have their own meeting.
Q: Is anyone in this meeting a member of the committee? Is anyone a member of Bridging the Gap? A person in my group is on PI/CPC and they’ve mentioned they have had frustrations with the committee. I am going to go back to her and ask about that.
A: We have 1 member who is on the Bridging the Gap committee.
Personal Opinions
Opinion: They seem to be doing a good job on the professional side, from white shoe to white shoe. It’s the public information side they aren’t doing. That would serve district 4 best because we don’t have a county jail or probation office. Houses of worship are how we reach underserved communities. As far as I know district 4 or 40 PI don’t have any outreach in places like that.
Opinion: I’m a member of the PI/CPC committee. We meet every month and currently its members are from district 4 and district 40. Theoretically each district would have their own PI/CPC committees.The two have been grouped. Should they or not? There are pros and cons. If they were separated then district 4 could work more specifically on what we’re doing in the committee and district 40 could do the same. On the other side though we have a hard enough time getting people to show up and do work. With the combination of the two groups we have more people available to do work. It’s true though that sometimes we’re working on stuff mainly for district 40 and sometimes on stuff mainly for 4. We both participate in helping each other and we do outreach. We do outreach to some of the places mentioned earlier like houses of worship but we don’t necessarily get any traction because we don’t have enough members to get stuff done. I don’t know what the right answer is here but we solve things like this by having group consciences and discussion.
Opinion: If we do separate and therefore are really specific about the areas that we’re serving and it’s really clear in each group that we have this many reps and we probably need this many…is there more accountability in that gap of service so that we’re spreading the word more consistently. If there are absences we need to keep promoting and promoting until the spot is filled and people step up and agree to serve. It’s making available more service opportunities.There needs to be more recruitment and outreach that these groups exist. When they’re blended it’s harder to have that accountability because the numbers are not representative of 2 separate groups
Presentation of New Business
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